I didn't find the learning turns in yedo 9 as difficult as those in ss#12. The stops/pokes after the turns in yedo 9 are challenging to transition into smoothly still. Thoughts?

Russell

It's definately some nice eye candy when someone can do it.

It is hard to keep the point onlline for the thrusts when you spin with power and speed. I'd like to rig a set of hanging targets if I get the opportunity and a method.

I know I'm resurrecting an old thread, but I have a suggestion to try when performing the final spins and pokes.

I had a real bear of a time with them and I could never seem to lock into the pokes, especially the last poke before spinning the opposite direction for the next two cuts. My problem was that I was thinking too much about the uppercuts and spinning. I would let the uppercut spin me into the next uppercut, which threw me off balance.

Instead I keep my momentum forward, not letting the uppercut spin me into the next movement. I make my waist and my stepping spin me into the next. Doing so keeps momentum forward and lets me stop on point, and change directions very quickly (without getting dizzy).

Does that make sense? I am having a horrible time trying to explain it. Perhaps that's what I get for never posting

I understand. So, if I got it, I'm pretty sure everyone else did too.

I haven't seen you on the forum before, Eric. Where are you from?

Oh, and welcome.

Hello Master Jenko. I'm glad to see you contribute. I have you on tape performing Yedo #9 combined with one of the Bonguk forms. I think you executed the forms exceptionally well.

haha, thanks Casey.

To answer Charles's question, I am from the Pittsburgh, PA area. This makes my 4th post, I believe, including those from the old forum. Although I hardly ever post, I do check the forums every now and again.

It is nice to read that most of those who went to Korea in '02 and '04 are still doing well.

I'll try to post more, as I sometimes have something to say... sometimes

Haidong!

That's good to hear, Mr. Jenko. I hope to see you at a tournament, hopefully the one in July. (Moncton, NB)

Hey Eric, good to see you coming out of your shell .

I have to agree with Casey, I have a tape (maybe the same one) of your demo during the October black belt test. Your rendition of Yedo 9 is what I am trying to achieve.

Russell

Good cover. I'd never have known if you hadn't spilled the beans.

I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to teach the last part of this form to Lorne over the past few weeks. I've been lucky to have clever and dedicated students.

I'd like to pose a question to the group of you who know the form that I posed to him as he stood swaying, and a little nauseous from repetitions of the spinning cuts.


"What is the tactical link that holds this form together?"

It's not a trick question or a competition. It's just a way to get ideas flowing...

not understanding the question

Sorry, I'll rephrase it...

Each of the forms has something to offer physically and many if not most of the forms have something to offer us mentally in the form of tactics.

I would like to discuss the different ideas we all have about what Y9 teaches us tactically.

This form seems to develop the idea of the continous attack. There also seems to be an (elusive) concept of a different way to balance, maybe to lead us into the Bonguk forms?

Sure, I think to do the forms properly - as Eric Jenko mentioned - you have to know where and when to apply power and when to capitalize on momentum. Without this understanding, by the time you get to Y9 you will be lost and certainly not able to do BGGB properly.

Let's stick to tactics though. Cheri mentioned the continuous attack or pressing the attack - driving the opponent before you through aggressive seizure of the position they've taken.

Yedo gets touted as being aggressive and hyperbole leads some to suggest it is all offense, no defense. We can see that is exaggeration in the first few forms. Does Y9 finally bring us around to the point where offense serves as defense?