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Hey, I was reading over some material and noted that Io Begi means "Double Cut" (roughly), but how accurate is this in direct translation? It suits the cut, yes, but if I were to apply Io to another sentence, would it actually mean "double", and, if not, what word/s would best suit?

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Eh, any takers? Anthony?

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My understanding is that it means to do something twice.

What is it exactly that you are wondering?



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I was planning on opening a club under the name of Io Yong ("Double Dragon"), but I'm still unsure if Io is the correct word to use in this circumstance.

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Is the hanja for io ?? If so, it might not be the appropriate word.

My guess is you want to say ssang (?), as in "ssang su geom bub".

I don't speak Korean, so don't believe what I say without independent confirmation.


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Io means 'continuously' or 'sequentially' and Io Yong would be 'Continuously Dragon' or 'Sequentially Dragon'. lol



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So, would Ssang Yong mean "Double Dragon" (or close enough)? And, if not, what word would fit most to mean "double" in this circumstance?

(Thanks for all the responses, btw :))

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Brian Gihm wrote:
Io means 'continuously' or 'sequentially' .....
Master Gihm, along those lines, could you please explain the difference between 'Io' and 'Yon Seok'? Thanks!



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Ssang Yong would be double dragon or twin dragon.

Io is a short form of Ee-uh-suh which in in pure Korean word meaning 'continuously' or 'following the previous event,'

Yon Seok is Korean pronounciation of Chinese word that also means 'continuous'

Yon Seok begi would be actually a mix of Chinese part (yonseok) and Korean part (begi).

Iobegi would be purely Korea vocab.



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Thank you most kindly for that explanation, Master Gihm! :)

Ssang Yong it is!

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Wow! Yes, thank you for that explanation!

In our school, we have been using 'yon seok begi' to refer to continuous cutting in a single direction (two or three steps/cuts in a row as you move forward, or two or three cuts/steps in a row as you move backwards), and 'io so begi' to refer to continuous cutting where you strike once while stepping forward (or left), then once while stepping backwards (or right).

Sounds like the terms mean exactly the same thing, and we just made a distinction so the folks in class would know which one was being called for. :oops:



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I've found Io Begi tends to be used in most schools for that quick step/cut forward and back, but I've never been able to get a term for the other part before it (step forward, back, left, right). I've heard Master Han, Sang-Hyun say different things for each direction, possibly the Korean for each direction, but usually I've just heard people say "step forward, back, left, right"...

Anyone have Korean words for this part of the 12 basic movements?

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We always use Chun Who Begi (or Ee o begi) for continious forward, backward cutting and Chun Who Cha Woo Begi for continious forward, backward, left, right cutting. Those spellings are what was written down for us. I noticed people spell things differently. Ex. bae kee is the same as begi.
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We use 'chun hu begi' for cutting once facing forward, turning around and cutting once facing backwards (therefore sodo chun hu begi, daedo chun hu begi, etc.)

We always called the running step 'baleun tongjak'



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Actually, bit clearer definition came to my mind during the class today.

Io is 'continuous' and Yunseok is more like 'repeatedly'



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