Miller's Tang Soo Do Institute in Loveville, MD teaches traditonal Korean sword forms as well as drawing and cutting techniques as part of his curriculum.

His website is:
http://www.mtsdi.com[/code]

There is a big difference between Haidong Gumdo, and the 4 traditional Tang Soo Do sword forms taught by Master Miller starting at Ee Dan. I am not discounting the forms by any means, and for all i know they may be forms wich are actually part of the Haidong Gumdo curriculum in part or full. But HDGD is a complete martial art on its own, it as a sword art comprised entirely of sword forms, sword work and other training designed to promote sword work. What it really boils down to though is that even though Master Miller does teach some sword work, he does not teach Haidong Gumdo, and probably shouldn't be listed under the Haidong Gumdo schools list.

I do have one question though. I understand there are many differences in teaching curriculums and that few are the same or even similar, but i was a little bit surprised to see that Master Mills teaches Kong San Goon at First Dan. That form is often considered very advanced(and very impressive from my veiw) Grand Master Kang Uk Lee even refers to it as the Hyung of all Hyungs and I've usually only seen it preformed by and taught to those who are 3rd Dan and higher. This leads me merely to ask how long while training how often does it take the average student at your school to reach 1st Dan in Tang Soo Do? (me also assuming you train at this school).

And no, i am not a highly skilled Master in Tang Soo Do, just an average curious student.

I am sure this is true. I did not mean to offend any Haidong Gumdo practioners or imply that Tang Soo Do is equivalent to it. I only mentioned it because I am new to the forum and we do study traditional Korean sword art. Just as an aside, Master Miller starts teaching the first sword hyung at Cho Dan; it takes quite a bit of practice to become proficient, but they don't become requirements until Ee Dan. We also teach the knife, cane, and fan.



I don't know of anybody else who teaches at 1st Dan either, you should see some of the looks I get when I competed with it as a 2nd Dan (my current rank). The hyung requirements come from Grand Master Seo Myung Seok, our first Grand Master. Master Seo program focused heavily on the traditional Tang Soo Do hyungs. It generally took 4 years to test from Sip (10th) Gup to Cho (1st) Dan.[/quote]

Welcome to the community Robert! Enjoy your stay and don't hesitate to contribute

Actually, 4 years from 10th to 1st Geup is about right in most TSD or SBD schools. I've never heard of KSG being taught that early either. It must take a long time to learn and master at 1st Dan...

I know that the International Tang Soo Do Federation also teaches a few sword forms, but they bear no semblance to HDGD. I would like to see the forms that your school teaches, do you have any youtube links or videos?