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Dan Heier
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Post subject: Kibon dongjack 1-5 Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:21 am |
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I was surprised to see a cirriculum drill named Kibon dongjack 1-5. I'm not familiar with this excersize. Perhaps I am but was never introduced to the proper name.
Can anyone assist me with these drills?
Thank you
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Brad Bonnyman
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:16 pm |
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I think it refers to the basic cuts performed during the warm up (straight, left, right, crosscut, etc). Exactly which ones are which I'm not sure.
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Craig Mills
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:47 pm |
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Can you explain the context?
Brad, I believe you may be thinking of Kibon paegi or basic cutting.
In my very limited experience, Geebon dongcha probably refers to the set of basic movements (geebon dongcha translates to basic movements), we actually practice these as a standard set of our curriculum. There are a total of 16 of them.
The first being step out into taedose, draw, hoengdon ilgum, then chakeom.
Second one basically the same, except with a chwapaegi.
And so on. I'm not sure how controlling the federation is of the actual material and what can be posted in a public forum. Actually, if anyone knows the answer to that, it would be helpful!
_________________ "The pointy end goes in the other man."
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Casey Rogers
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:54 am |
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Kibon dongjak are the basic drills that are usually done at the start of class. They are depicted here:
http://eng.hdgd.org/04_character/04_character_03.html
As for what can and cannot be posted in a public forum in regards to the WHDGDF's curriculum, keep in mind there are already commercially produced videos depicting the basic drills and a sampling of the gumbup and other curriculum components. The videos produced by Turtle Press and Budo International come to mind. Additionally, the WHDGDF has produced instructional videos covering its curriculum through the Yedo gumbup series, though those videos may be intended for instructors only. Nowadays the WHDGDF is much more protective of the higher gumbup starting with the Jangbaek series.
To the best of my knowledge, the basic cutting drills mentioned by Mr. Mills really isn't proprietary information.
_________________ Haidong Gumdo - for all the times my mother wouldn't let me run around in the house with scissors in my hands.
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Craig Mills
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:13 pm |
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Casey Rogers wrote: Kibon dongjak are the basic drills that are usually done at the start of class. They are depicted here: http://eng.hdgd.org/04_character/04_character_03.htmlThough we also do the set depicted here, I was under the impression that this is basic cutting or kibon paegi. We have an entirely separate set of basic movements, kibon dongja. There are 16 individual and separate movements Casey Rogers wrote: As for what can and cannot be posted in a public forum in regards to the WHDGDF's curriculum, keep in mind there are already commercially produced videos depicting the basic drills and a sampling of the gumbup and other curriculum components. The videos produced by Turtle Press and Budo International come to mind. Additionally, the WHDGDF has produced instructional videos covering its curriculum through the Yedo gumbup series, though those videos may be intended for instructors only. Nowadays the WHDGDF is much more protective of the higher gumbup starting with the Jangbaek series.
To the best of my knowledge, the basic cutting drills mentioned by Mr. Mills really isn't proprietary information.
Thank you, in this day and age of copyright sensitivities, I'm very careful what I post on public forums.
_________________ "The pointy end goes in the other man."
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bradgraper
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Post subject: Re: Kibon dongjack 1-5 Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:26 pm |
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Ok. If Kibondongjack is what we do at the beginning of class, and Kibonkyukum 1-12 is (presumably) the 12 color belt kyukums, what are: Yaksok 1-12 Kyojun 1-7 Jayu Kyukum Kyungki Kyukum and when does one get introduced to them?
_________________ "To desire the end is to desire the means: if you are not prepared to do what is neccessary to achieve it, you never wanted it at all."
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Casey Rogers
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Post subject: Re: Kibon dongjack 1-5 Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:41 pm |
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Brad, I'm not familiar with the exercises you're asking about, at least not by those names. Can you elaborate and describe the exercises? From where or whom did you hear of these?
_________________ Haidong Gumdo - for all the times my mother wouldn't let me run around in the house with scissors in my hands.
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bradgraper
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Post subject: Re: Kibon dongjack 1-5 Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:42 pm |
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Casey.
That's all taken from the curriculum section of the USA Haidong Gumdo Association website.
_________________ "To desire the end is to desire the means: if you are not prepared to do what is neccessary to achieve it, you never wanted it at all."
-- S.M. Stirling
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Casey Rogers
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Post subject: Re: Kibon dongjack 1-5 Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:20 pm |
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Okay. I'll ask my sabumnim about it this Saturday and post what I find out unless someone else beats me to it.
_________________ Haidong Gumdo - for all the times my mother wouldn't let me run around in the house with scissors in my hands.
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